Alan Morrison: Look, I think what really needs to happen is, you know, it's sort of a mirror image of the Tea Party after the 2008 election. It's got to be a grassroots thing.

It's got to come from outside of the system. It's not going to be from within Washington. It's not going to be establishment Democrats. The energy is going to have to come from out there in the country. And that will push Democrats and it will push the system generally.

Now, you're a fine student of social movements. And we were talking earlier about the Gilded Age. And I think without the corruption and abuses of the Gilded Age, you probably don't wind up with the progressive movement. And I do wonder and hope that because of the rampant corruption and abuses of this administration,
that there will be a mass movement to rebuild what he has destroyed and put his back on a sound footing.

Ralph Nader: I think you're right. When you mentioned the Tea Party alternative, what the Democrats need is a similar level of energy. They could call it the coffee party from back home to really pressure them. The way the Tea Party, the Post estimated that there never were more than 300,000 active Tea Party people around the country. And look at the impact they had on the Republican Party.

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